tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931227998239921482.post3306297680689915652..comments2020-10-03T06:18:18.780-07:00Comments on Progressive Positive: World View-ismLanceMillerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12967321155433918187noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931227998239921482.post-23597070963969108162008-04-14T22:29:00.000-07:002008-04-14T22:29:00.000-07:00We're dealing with someone who wants us to abandon...We're dealing with someone who wants us to abandon habits (tooth-brushing? Setting our alarm clocks?) to put a stop to .. get this .. REALITY.<BR/><BR/>(Also note that the post is in the Q&A form of a catechism.)<BR/><BR/>I'll spare you my clumsy paraphrase of Guns, Germs and Steel. Aside from a few specific tactical victories which might be attributed to an older literary and military tradition, evidence for differences in ideas giving Europeans a strategic edge in First Contact scenarios is poor.<BR/><BR/>It's easy to make assertions about the world views of pre-literary people who can't speak for themselves, but at any rate Native Americans weren't the only societies conquered by Eurasian empires: everyone in the Old AND New Worlds got that treatment at one time or another (including and perhaps especially Europeans.)<BR/><BR/>All this speculation is weak defense against the Ramtha-itish teleology, since we could have dreamed up everything we've been talking about just now as we discussed it and brought all that history into being through our materialistic habits.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072541194513236270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931227998239921482.post-21172698563313401272008-04-14T07:10:00.000-07:002008-04-14T07:10:00.000-07:00Depending on how your defining "world view" it wou...Depending on how your defining "world view" it would seem to me that the world view of the Native Americans (at least in the beginning) clashed with the world view of the Europeans, to their disadvantage. I'm pretty sure any sort of help would not be offered to a tribe that was intent on exterminating you unless you didn't think plausable that they would. The same for Jews in WWII, they held a world view of were the idea of mass killings didn't register to the detriment of their survival. Both groups preferred to stick to their own world views and dispose of information outside of that frame until it was too late to make a difference. <BR/><BR/>Maybe the world view of Europeans in America wasn't 'better' but it certainly gave them advantage because they organized all social systems around the idea of private rights and exploitation (which influenced their use of technology).<BR/><BR/>I'd say the same for those whose current world views view pacifism as the <B>only</B> answer in the face of overwhelming control and power. The world view based on exploitation and technology will win...you are right there.Ryan Hawkeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03553031705067486676noreply@blogger.com